Kaeda Maxwell
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2011.11.24 11:17:00 -
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Tarunik Raqalth'Qui wrote:Kaeda Maxwell wrote:The wardec system needs to be looked at, yesterday.
*Especially what is and isn't allowed in hi-sec.
*Dec shields need addressing one way or the other, the recent sudden change in policy set a lot of bad blood with mercs, hi-sec dec corps and yes griefers.
*CCP Needs to take a clear stance on where they want to go with PvP mechanics in hi-sec. I agree that the wardec system should be looked at with a critical eye.
- I agree that paying your way out of a wardec should be the harder/more expensive option than fighting.
- However, this does not address the reason the "dec shield" originally came to be: junk wardecs. Pre-"dec shield", Eve Uni received numerous wardecs where the aggressing party (the one that initiated the wardec) refused to come out and fight, instead staying docked up. This issue should be addressed explicitly (perhaps an ISK penalty to the aggressors if they refuse to engage in combat?).
- With this, other wardec evasion tactics should be illegal. Being able to operate with basically minimal risk in hisec (your ship is not cost-effective to suicide gank) yet still get good, no, great (as in top-end or nearly so) rewards from L4s and Incursions is not what this game is about.
As a possible system, I'd suggest making the declaring party put up a sum of ISK (with a set minimum value) that either:
- Will be refunded to them at the end of the campaign (if combat takes place)
- Is paid by the targeted party to end the wardec (danegeld, basically)
- Or is charged to the declaring party (as a penalty) if no combat (kills and/or losses) results.
I'm not advocating any specific changes, I'm just tired of gathering intel eventually deccing a corp and then having them drop the dec via a decshield immediately.
I am also not saying people should be forced to fight, you want to dock up, dock up. E-uni's problem stems from their own rule of not allowing their pilots to undock during war except in an organized fleet. If the aggressors never undock into your frigate blob I understand that's annoying, but eve uni told eve unis pilots they can't do anything but sit in that blob on that station during war, you really can't blame fail deccers for your own policies. I can't buy anything because I forbade myself to spend resources! I blame it on the shopkeepers! Anyway their issue isn't caused by game mechanics it's caused by them.
Also ISK is a bad motivator to encourage/discourage anything in EVE. If I put up a post on BRRC forums saying we need X amount of ISK to wardec Y we'd prolly have it donated within 48 hours even if we're talking billions.
Basically stuff needs to resolved in such a way that wardecs either stick (except when you disband the corp/alliance) or there is a clear set of rules and conditions under which a wardec becomes invalidated.
I don't really see a surrender system working either, while it would work for mercs and maybe hi-sec extortionist type wardeccers it will do nothing to discourage griefers (not that I actually think griefing should be discouraged at all mind you).
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